Bryan and Lili resume their interview with Natalija Nogulich who played Admiral Nachayev on Star Trek: The Next Generation in four episodes and she discusses her two appearances on the spin-off series Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Bryan asks Nogulich what preparation was like doing rehearsals opposite Patrick Stewart and his approach in directing on TNG. A clip from the late season 7 Next Generation episode "Journey's End" shows Stewart as Picard and Nogulich as Nachayev coming to terms in a heavy discussion on relocation of the American Indian settlers. Nogulich speaks to how she and Stewart would have likely been more on the same side if TNG went into an 8th season as writer Ron Moore wrote her character. The discussion shifts to Nogulich as Nachayev appearing in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine with a familiar Jonathan Frakes directing her and a solid story of her working opposite Avery Brooks with a clip shown from the DS9 episode "The Maquis, Part II".